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Friday 11 April 2014

Lessons from the Autistic Mouse


 


One surprising observation from reading the research on autism is how many times I have come across scientists making a mouse autistic and then showing how this can be reversed.
The important point is that the things the scientists did to the mouse (or its mother) are generally totally unrelated.  The only thing in common is the resulting mouse has “autistic behaviour”.
We can conclude that “autism” can be caused by entirely different events/disorders;  just like a head ache can be.

It would be correct to think of autism as a symptom, not a disease.

Perhaps, put a little clearer:-

  • Autism is just a symptom of an underlying neurological disorder.  There are numerous such disorders, each with their own underlying pathology; some of these pathologies may overlap.  Treating the underlying pathology will moderate the symptoms of autism.
  • Do not treat autism.  Treat the underlying pathology.
  • A treatment that works in one person, with the symptoms of autism, may be completely ineffective in another.
  • All treatments that are genuinely effective, in even the smallest group of children, should be carefully documented and shared publicly. Steps should be taken to look for biomarkers associated with each group.   

So, it is fundamental to think of autism as a symptom rather than a disease.
If researchers think of autism as a disease, it will likely remain incurable.  Granted, there is much more talk about autisms, sub-types and phenotypes, but this all goes out the window, so to speak, when it comes to doing clinical trials.
I am reading about a series of autism trials by Forest Laboratories of the US, using an old drug called Memantine.    I was shocked to see that they are trialing this drug in 118 locations around the world, on 906 children

Autism trials are usually tiny.  Conducting a trial on nearly a thousand kids is very expensive.  You would not undertake this kind of expense, unless you had a pretty good reason to think the drug was effective.
This trial is actually a safety study, in parallel there are a whole series of other studies.
Unfortunately, by trialing the drug on almost any kid, with any kind of autistic feature (Autism, Asperger’s, PDD-NOS), the important lesson from the mice has been completely lost.
While I really wish Forest Laboratories success, I suspect their trial will show that while Memantine is safe, it is not effective.
Over the years, there have been many anecdotal reports of the effectiveness of Memantine in some cases of autism.  Memantine is a drug that acts on the glutamatergic system by blocking NMDA receptors.  This will be explained in some detail in the next post “Ketamine, Memantine, D-Cycloserine and even Magnesium as Glutamatergic Modulators in Autism”.

Conclusion
You might think that much of the above should be common sense; sadly it is not.




5 comments:

  1. Peter, I know that Monty doesn't have GI problems but I was wondering if you or anyone else might be able to help me. My son recently (roughly 5 weeks ago) stopped taking two medications he had been on for years -- Memantine and Prozac. We felt it was a good time to see where his baseline is since he is entering puberty, he had been on them for so long and they didn't seem to be helping. The one thing we had always noted with Memantine was that it helped his GI issues (cycling between constipation and diarreah). About 2 weeks ago we started a Baclofen trial which didn't do anything, but his GI problems started up after being dormant for a long time. I had attributed it to the fact that Baclofen can be quite constipating. I tried giving small doses of magnesium, but it just opened up the flood gates. I ended up stopping the Baclofen as he didn't seem to be a responder. My question is this: Can anyone think of what the mechanism might be in memantine that would help with GI signaling? I am baffled as is his doctor. I would rather not go back on it, but his stomach is a mess and he is about to go back to school. This could be a disaster. Thanks so much! I really value the opinions and insight from Peter and the other followers of this blog. --Christine

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    1. I cannot explain which action of memantine is helping, but if things were OK prior to baclofen, you could go back to memantine for a couple of weeks and then stop again and forget about baclofen.

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    2. I just recalled that memantine has an effect on calcium channels and if you google calcium channels and memantine you will see research on frogs. Some readers of this blog report that the calcium channel blocker verapamil makes longstanding GI problems disappear. So the mild effect of memantine on L type calcium channels might be what helps your son, in which case a small dose of verapamil might help.

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    3. Peter, thank you so much for your thoughts. You are an amazing and invaluable resource of information. Really appreciate it! --Christine

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  2. Thank you Peter for always putting everything in simple yet common sense and very logical conclusions.

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